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On 8 February 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from 1979 Cleveland Elementary School shooting (San Diego) to Cleveland Elementary School shooting (San Diego). The result of the discussion was moved.

Sexual Orientation

The article confusingly briefly references a "girlfriend" as a cause for self-harm/suicide attempt; this is ambiguous because while it would usually imply she is lesbian, it is also sometimes used for other relationships. Some googling suggests that she has publicly stated that she is lesbian, but nothing in the article covers this. If this is the case and it's been relevant to her prison life, then it should be appropriately referenced and the usual metadata added like . --Gwern (contribs) 16:53 20 December 2023 (GMT)

None of the homosexuality claims are sourced so I removed all of them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.57.2.97 (talk) 15:02, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Motive thing

I made the original motive edit, sorry for wreaking havoc guys I just came back to this article My original thought process is just that a motive is your reason for doing a crime and her reason was clearly not a dislike for Mondays so I removed it to minimize confusion Not experienced with Wikipedia edits :( Blinkygoober (talk) 07:19, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Don't apologize, you were right to remove it. Thanks for your contribution. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 14:40, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 8 February 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Moved per nom. Two editors favored the nominated title, with two others favoring 1979 Cleveland Elementary School shooting, although not a hard "support", a ~~third~~ the nom, derp20:14, 16 February 2024 (UTC) noted that the year is atypical, so per WP:NOTCURRENTTITLE, I am choosing the nom for now, and another discussion can optionally be opened later to settle on whether the second option was a better choice. (closed by non-admin page mover) ASUKITE 17:09, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1979 Cleveland Elementary School shooting (San Diego) → Cleveland Elementary School shooting (San Diego) – Remove “1979” from the title as including the name of the city is an adequate identifying factor. MountainDew20 (talk) 00:56, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rename per nom, and also to avoid WP:MISPLACED problems. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 02:12, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I wonder if 1979 Cleveland Elementary School shooting would be more in line with WP:NCWWW and WP:NATURAL, along with expansion of the hatnote. Mdewman6 (talk) 23:06, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
1979 Cleveland Elementary School shooting seems a good suggestion. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 00:09, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: This page was only recently renamed (Nov 6, 2023) from Cleveland Elementary School shooting (San Diego) to 1979 Cleveland Elementary School shooting (San Diego), with edit summary "Per WP:NCE: when, where, and what happened. Also, per many other article titles for many other school shootings across decades." IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 00:08, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The year is usually not added in school shootings as it is a specific location that can distinguish from other shootings. MountainDew20 (talk) 03:15, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Names the school was changed to after the shooting

It was actually renamed Momentum middle school until about 2010.^[1]^[2] should that be added? 2601:206:301:4A90:83EB:27BB:B13:3BC0 (talk) 22:41, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] ttps://www.boarddocs.com/ca/sandi/Board.nsf/files/86WDYZ381935/$file/6-25-10_MSA+San+Diego+Charter+Renewal.pdf

[2] ttps://www.spellingcity.com/momentum-middle-school-san-diego-ca.html

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